No it's not. When a scammer claims their account got stolen, they need to prove it and it's very difficult. Makes it a lot less valuable to sell it onwards. if we have proof could you get the uspis to pursue the case? Use your common sense. Fewer than half (46%) of online marketplace users check to see whether an item … @HarrisonA: In my opinion I would just avoid selling anything interstate and keep it local. What was the phone/model? Could he not have just done a PayPal invoice and opted in for buyer protection? Thread Tools. If it is really that common….. @burningrage: Cops firstly couldn't care less, secondly the story is the same that they have paid you extra to cover the transit cost. I recently came across a popular Gumtree scam and felt it important to share so that others can avoid a similar situation. The message from "Sue" read: "Hi my partner will like to know if your listed Phone on gumtree is still on for sale? Even today, I always take a photo before and after opening any parcel. Got scammed on Gumtree. https://www.apple.com/au/support/products/iphone/, Gumtree is for face to face cash transactions only. And you didn't catch any STDs, which with 1'000 spend in other ways, could be quite easy. Excited, I emailed sallyjenese@gmail.com right away, to let her know that the phone was still available. Someone on /r/Melbourne was scammed on Gumtree with counterfeit cash last week. Can be disputed but no idea what the success rate was. but we think she sold a phone like mine and was sending her customer my phone over in Texas, As soon as we sent my phone we found out the transaction was a fake and that we needed to get the phone back. The fact is, scams are everywhere and in every method from both the buyers and sellers sides. It's a fair point brokenglish, I think the worst are the Apple gift card scams. People who get scammed like this will get scammed no matter what payment method they use. The payment happened through PayPal but not within GumTree's website. There are multiple ways of being scammed even if money arrives with PayPal. please check this out because I almost lost £1000 camera and possibly money from my PayPal account. Paypal or the credit provider can reverse the transaction if it is claimed as fraud or using a stolen account. A transaction should always be made face-to-face with the buyer and seller, with payment made once the goods have been inspected or the services completed. If I bought a car on Gumtree did you want me to bring you a bucket of cash? And in my case when I did, the buyer claimed they were hacked and paypal put my account in negative as though it was my fault. Yes in this instance it was a facepalm easy scam due to him not checking, but even if he had the money there are multiple ways he could have lost out. @funnysht: i have thought of that, Mobile car wash business for sale.# Due to scams and time wasters I do not respond on Gumtree mail Please pick up the phone and contact me if you are interested #The opportunities are endless and we build to your requirements. It's cash without having to carry cash and you get a receipt. Most people don't get scammed and if someone has attempted to scam them, it is easily dismissed if you are aware of how things work. We also recommend everyone using Gumtree should visit our Help section for tips on how to have a safe and successful experience and to be vigilant when using any online marketplace.”. I Got Scammed on Gumtree, and Was Wondering if There's a Solution? Try before you buy. thanks for your help. The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. Not to say how much to ship it to us with insurance. We previously moved to restrict the sale of items that were in high demand such as hand sanitisers and PPE, and will move to do the same if required. It is at least equal to bank transfers, credit cards and cash as it can do the same as all three yet is instant and has better scam protection. Things like this happened long before ebay and Paypal came about. ... trying to scam people all day every day, must erode your humanity. You don't use the same paypal method in person as you would for an online transactions and you don't use the same method for personal and consumer transactions either. Like sending money to family/friends. I messaged the guy he was keen to sell so he gave me his number. These people are adept at preying on your vulnerabilities. we rang AusPost Close. It's not the devs they're looking after. In other cases, people ignore the advised ways of doing things and wander outside of the range of protection. People seem to be completely unaware of the fact that in person to person Paypal transactions, most of the time you are doing a straight transfer without buyer/seller protection which is the same as using cash. I sell many unwanted goods online, as it's a great way to convert unwanted items into cash. Long story short, I was selling a macbook air and this scammer contacted me and told me 'she' had sent payment through. Since bank can’t reverse transfer, auspost can’t stop delivery, police can’t catch, no one can help the victim, this is a life changing career. PayPal just reverses it then. But yes, there are ways to block the phones via software. Posted by 4 hours ago. Honestly, if this is all true then no, there's nothing you can do. Different story, same trick in the end. At this time i was feeling like i had a good deal and stupid me didn't want to think it was a scam. Inspect the goods, then pay with straight transfers as a gift. It's easier stealing credit card details or a debit card and pin yet requires just as much if not more proof that it was stolen as digital wallets also have a digital trail including log ins and IPs. You can't just hack or steal a paypal account. Zanco replied a second time with a Queensland Driver’s License of a young man named Zanco. Lisa Du is director of ReadyTechGo, a service that helps people gain the confidence and skills to embrace modern technology. Most scammers would not want to deal with Counterfeit cash as that is something the police really will follow up. This is the high risk approach to purchases in person, you get all the negatives of paypal without any of the positives, why would any sane seller adopt an unnecessary risk for a transaction that can easily be done with cash without all the possible downsides of paypal. thats my belief anyway. @sajidmib: https://mashable.com/article/applecare-plus-theft-and-loss-c.... AppleCare+ with Theft and Loss will include up to two incidents of accidental damage, just like regular old AppleCare+. When my suspicions were aroused, that’s what I did. Sites like Gumtree advise using a linked Paypal account for this very reason as it DOES protect you, it just can't protect people from doing stupid shit or being reckless and careless or being naive about the common scam methods of today. As soon as it was received a refund would automatically be issued and seller would be out of pocket. Gumtree scam. And that's direct to BSB and account number, as Payee ID (mobile number) can still be reversed (if within 24 hours). Ruthless. That is a shame. At this least time it only cost your $1k, Not chicken feed, but could have been worse! I don't have a "sue" in my contact list, and when I tapped on the contact details, there was no phone number! I had a client this week who listed their Caravan on Gumtree, and straight away, received a text message asking them if the caravan was available, the condition of the caravan and to email them the details with the best price (sound familiar?). Apple now will take into consideration theft or loss as part of the two incidents. @SBOB: Third party doesn't cost 1k though, @Jackson: It can if you're 18 and bought a stupid car, Wow, so this kind if scam still works. Safest way before shipping anything is direct deposit. Going to be a walk in the park for these guys. she then imitated pay-pal again and said that she was overcharged an additional $1,000 (in total "$2,000 out of her bank account into ours"). regardless unless you are selling something that is incredibly expensive it hardly requires a bucket of cash. Like sending money to family/friends. More so since covid started. What happened to debt collector? …or just checked the paypal account to see that no money had been transferred…, Yes but can't the buyer reverse a paypal transfer or dispute it. @gromit: Russian roulette? it was a brand new Samsung s9 plus 256gb, but there other thing was she said she was paying for express on top of everything. Police in Belfast are warning locals about scammers targeting locals through Gumtree and PayPal. Apple takes a cut of every sale in the app store. Banks and Credit card companies can't just reverse something unless the other person has more proof than you. Hi in the last week I listed 4 things on Gumtree, with 2 mins of listing a new item each time I get pestered by people, usually foreign, claimimng to be from insurance claims companies offering me compensation. Sorry for your loss, nothing you can do now. Also do research - google is your friend. You may find further information if you can contact them somehow but at the end of the day, I don't like your chances but you can try. People need to take some precautions and responsibility for themselves too rather than relying on third party companies to step in and solve everything. That Paypal is somehow the only one that could be hacked or stolen? They send money to a person online for the bond, and they wait for the keys to arrive but they never arrive. They’re thieves and they stole our money. then you would think it's Australia Post's negligence, wouldn't you? They would then send back a parcel with something else in it, but provide valid tracking info. We do not have access to phone at the moment, which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. Got scammed on Gumtree. No credit card transactions. You're the one who sounds incredibly naive. Common sense is important too – if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The seller shouldn't accept or sign for a return without inspecting it first. How exactly is the OP going to go about blocking the IMEI in the US? Unfair to pass that on to the seller who had nothing to do with the breach. Please share this video or tell people about this scam. Like every other place on earth that people buy or sell. It's not difficult to outsmart the scammers especially when it comes to well known scams. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. Rest assured, I will not hesitate to report you to gumtree/Police and Property agents). All these things can be prevented yet there are people who still fall victim to the common tactics then cry foul and blame paypal. Looking for Recommendations on a Free Podcast App for iOS/Windows. You can't initiate chargebacks on gift transactions. OMG How many alarm bells do you need? we told her that we had no money to give, but there was no answer to that question. @funnysht: Same is true for ebay transactions too. Your telco will only block the SIM card from further misuse until you transfer the number out to another SIM card. While most community members have a positive experience, on occasion bad seeds do target Gumtree users. @funnysht: yes, very easy to dispute and win, cash only for gumtree. @HarrisonA: Greed overcome you. He is rated fairly well and had other items on sale which all had sold, so I thought he was fairly trustworthy. An officer from East Belfast says his colleague has been dealing with a … Don't feel bad, almost everyone on earth has been conned before. What if many people got scammed and asked for this? Legitimate buyers and … If it's as a sale transaction though, yes. There always have been, there always will be. I'm guessing they'd argue it's bad for the developers because they're reversing transactions. No need to be so polite and call her Charlotte. Of course it would be costly but would you rather seeing yourself getting scammed in slow motion and helpless at the same time? yes i fully agree, now i can see the offer was a bit to good to be true so much so that its a little funny and humiliating, now i can see the offer was a bit to good to be true. If lost or stolen, you'll need to have Find My iPhone enabled on your device at the time it went missing in order to have Apple honor a replacement. The people behind this one are not your average cyber criminals. Take it as a life lesson. Errr did you not read the entire sentence. This is a lesson for the boy - women are expensive. I believe it is fairly safe. Why people jump on Paypal like it's some unsafe method is just such an old mentality and usually due to ignorance of how it works and what it's different uses are. The buyer suddenly demands a refund on the fake transaction, 3. o'well at least i have something to help me remember the big loss to prevent me doing it again. Counterfeit cash is a real problem. ive learnt a lot from everyone and would like to thank you all for helping me understand what needs to happen to prevent anything like this happening again. Plus baby boom during covid, so many people needing a life lesson in a couple of years, great opportunities! I’d prepare for your pending interview next week...’ She replied back ‘ I don’t know what your talking about? Inspect the goods, then pay with straight transfers as a gift. This scam has been around for years and still people fall for it. It also means not exploiting the current situation for commercial gain. we rang AusPost How much do you think manual intervention costs in a systematized delivery process like this? 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